Shares of fiber laser specialist IPG Photonics (IPGP)
have rebounded strongly from late December lows (up almost 45%) as
investors are less fearful of a sharp decline in sales to China and
overall industrial demand, as well as holding more optimism over future
opportunities in core cutting/welding, 3D manufacturing, EV battery
assembly, and so on. Although I do believe revenue could return to
year-over-year growth in the second half of this year, I’m more
concerned about the long-term margin consequences of increased
competition from Chinese rivals and whether IPG can continue to find
attractive new markets/applications for higher-performance lasers that
would really allow the company to leverage its R&D and engineering
advantages.
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Sunday, April 7, 2019
Monday, October 15, 2018
China Takes Another Bite Out Of IPG Photonics
When your prime market, the market where you generate
close to 50% of your revenue, is in trouble, it’s tough to work around
that. Such is the situation for IPG Photonics (IPGP),
and this once high-flying leader in fiber lasers has gotten pummeled
over the last three months on revenue and earnings weakness due to
China. The latest blow came on Friday, with the company announcing that
third quarter revenue and EPS were going to come in about 5% or so short
of where expectations were a week ago.
IPG’s
China-related risks showed up in the second quarter, and clearly they
are continuing to linger, putting near-term revenue and margins very
much in doubt. What’s more, it’s at least plausible to me that this
period of trade squabbling between the U.S. and China is going to give a
boost to Chinese fiber laser companies like Han’s Laser and Wuhan Raycus
and improve their profile with Chinese manufacturing customers.
Although IPG shares do look undervalued, and the multiples are lower
than they’ve been in quite some time, anybody considering the shares
today needs to be prepared to withstand further near-term losses until
the situation bottoms out.
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Sunday, March 11, 2018
Ongoing Share Gains, Innovation, And Leverage Propelling IPG Photonics
Fiber laser innovator IPG Photonics (IPGP)
is a good example of why I'm willing to pay up for good companies
(and/or hold stocks that otherwise seem richly-valued) - the really good
companies out there always seem to find ways to innovate and expand
their addressable markets, as well as generate improved operating
leverage. IPG has continued to exceed my expectations on both fronts,
and the trailing return metrics over the past one, three, and five years
(and beyond) have been exemplary.
I don't mind
paying up for good companies, but IPG shares do have a track record of
significant pullbacks from time to time - whether due to the company not
meeting lofty expectations on a quarterly basis or wider concerns about
the health of manufacturing spending. The valuation today seems to be
pricing in total expected returns in the high single digits, which isn't
bad, but I'd much prefer to buy in when the expected returns are in the
double digits.
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Sunday, May 7, 2017
IPG Photonics Already Seeing A Strong Recovery
Buying good companies when they are beaten up a bit by
disappointed growth-oriented investors continues to be a sound strategy,
provided that the underlying market drivers are only going through a
temporary patch of trouble. So it has been with IPG Photonics (NASDAQ:IPGP). I thought the slowdown in the metalworking markets, and the pressure it was creating on IPG's valuation, were an opportunity
back in the summer of 2016, and the shares have moved up about 60%
since then. To be fair, investors would have done even better in rival
laser company Coherent (NASDAQ:COHR), or turnaround metalworking play Kennametal (NYSE:KMT), but IPG's performance stacks up pretty well with other metalworking stories like Lincoln Electric (NASDAQ:LECO) and Colfax (NYSE:CFX).
IPG
Photonics continues to do a commendable job of moving the goal posts
out in terms of what can be accomplished with its high-power lasers.
That is creating new opportunities to take share away from non-laser
systems as well as to replace old non-fiber laser installations. Looking
ahead, there are still attractive opportunities in areas like cutting
and welding, as well as drilling, not to mention newer applications like
theater projection, OLED production, and 3D manufacturing. IPG also
continues to move forward with new(er) technologies like UV and
ultrafast lasers that can still add more hundreds of millions of dollars
to the long-term addressable market.
With a strong
recovery in revenue and strong recent growth in machine tool orders in
China, I'm not surprised that investors have come back to this name. I
still believe in the prospects for high-single-digit revenue growth and
mid-teens FCF growth, but the high-single-digit implied total return
isn't as compelling relative to the prospects a year ago.
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Thursday, July 21, 2016
Seeking Alpha: A Metalworking Slowdown Creates An Opportunity With IPG Photonics
A lot of what I was worried about concerning IPG Photonics (NASDAQ:IPGP) back in December
has come to pass in 2016, as the company has seen weaker manufacturing
activity and greater competition in China squeeze the company's
once-robust growth rates. The market has reacted pretty predictably too,
tossing the stock around between the mid-$70s and $103 as investors try
to weigh out the opportunities that double-digit underlying market
growth and new product introductions offer against the specter of rising
competition and a prolonged slowdown in major end markets.
I
certainly can't promise that the third quarter won't bring another
downward revision to guidance or that the stock won't see the $70s
again. That said, I think IPG Photonics is well placed to maintain its
leadership in fiber lasers and expand its addressable market
opportunities. Low double-digit free cash flow growth is hardly a
conservative projection in my book, but I think IPG Photonics can hit
that mark and support a fair value in the mid-$90s.
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Thursday, December 31, 2015
Seeking Alpha: IPG Photonics Still On Top Of A Rising Mountain
I've made no secret of the fact that I like and admire IPG Photonics (NASDAQ:IPGP), and I can't say that the shares haven't rewarded that enthusiasm. Since my first piece for Seeking Alpha on the company, the shares are up more than 60%, trouncing other laser companies like Rofin-Sinar (NASDAQ:RSTI), Coherent (NASDAQ:COHR), and Newport (NASDAQ:NEWP), and beating the NASDAQ by a relatively comfortable margin as well.
When I last wrote about the company, the business was running quite smoothly, but I was concerned about the expectations baked into the valuation. The shares have been more or less flat since then on a "net" basis, but I did suggest that investors could look for dips into the $80s as buying opportunities and investors got two such chances (including a move into the $70s).
Now what? I still like this business, and I think IPG Photonics is poised for a decade of revenue growth that averages out to around 9% to 10% a year coupled with excellent free cash flow margins. I do have some worries about the potential of "peak margin", as well as the possibility that IPG Photonics' growth will make it more susceptible to the vagaries of the machine tool cycles, but no stock comes without risks. The shares do look a little undervalued now, but I'd be tempted to try another "buy the dip" move given the macro uncertainties.
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When I last wrote about the company, the business was running quite smoothly, but I was concerned about the expectations baked into the valuation. The shares have been more or less flat since then on a "net" basis, but I did suggest that investors could look for dips into the $80s as buying opportunities and investors got two such chances (including a move into the $70s).
Now what? I still like this business, and I think IPG Photonics is poised for a decade of revenue growth that averages out to around 9% to 10% a year coupled with excellent free cash flow margins. I do have some worries about the potential of "peak margin", as well as the possibility that IPG Photonics' growth will make it more susceptible to the vagaries of the machine tool cycles, but no stock comes without risks. The shares do look a little undervalued now, but I'd be tempted to try another "buy the dip" move given the macro uncertainties.
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Wednesday, May 13, 2015
Seeking Alpha: At IPG Photonics, Strong Performance Backs Aggressive Expectations
In contrast to Rofin-Sinar (NASDAQ:RSTI), IPG Photonics (NASDAQ:IPGP)
continues to perform very well on the back of growing adoption of fiber
lasers and strong operating efficiency. This has been may favorite
laser name for a while now, and the 35% move in the stock price since my last piece has been nice to see (and well above the results from Rofin-Sinar, Coherent (NASDAQ:COHR), and Newport (NASDAQ:NEWP)).
Although Rofin-Sinar has looked a little stronger of late in its fiber laser efforts, it is still well behind IPG Photonics and that is going to be a difficult gap to fill. Meanwhile, while Rofin-Sinar tries to get to where IPG Photonics already is, the latter is moving on with newer offerings like green lasers, ultrafast lasers, UV lasers, and products targeted at large applications like spot welding and paint stripping. The only major downside to the IPG Photonics story that I see today is the high level of expectations - today's price already seems to anticipate a 10-year run of greater than 10% revenue growth and FCF margin expansion into the mid-20%'s. While I think the company can do that, I'm not sure it can do so much better that there's a lot of upside at today's price.
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At IPG Photonics, Strong Performance Backs Aggressive Expectations
Although Rofin-Sinar has looked a little stronger of late in its fiber laser efforts, it is still well behind IPG Photonics and that is going to be a difficult gap to fill. Meanwhile, while Rofin-Sinar tries to get to where IPG Photonics already is, the latter is moving on with newer offerings like green lasers, ultrafast lasers, UV lasers, and products targeted at large applications like spot welding and paint stripping. The only major downside to the IPG Photonics story that I see today is the high level of expectations - today's price already seems to anticipate a 10-year run of greater than 10% revenue growth and FCF margin expansion into the mid-20%'s. While I think the company can do that, I'm not sure it can do so much better that there's a lot of upside at today's price.
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At IPG Photonics, Strong Performance Backs Aggressive Expectations
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Thursday, April 9, 2015
Seeking Alpha: Rofin-Sinar Making Progress, But Not Particularly Quickly Or Dramatically
I suppose you could approach Rofin-Sinar Technologies' (NASDAQ:RSTI)
performance over the last year as something of a Rorschach test. A bear
can point to the company's ongoing lackluster sales performance,
bottoming margins, and lack of progress in really challenging IPG Photonics (NASDAQ:IPGP)
in the growing fiber laser market. A bull could argue that the company
has stabilized its revenue situation (and that currency moves make the
comps worse than they really are), put in a bottom with margins, and can
look to new product introductions in fiber and ultrafast lasers to help
drive better results in the coming quarters.
For my part, my feelings haven't changed all that much since I last wrote on the shares. I do think that the market is still undervaluing the company's long-term growth prospects, but I don't think the undervaluation is all that great. I'm also concerned that it has taken this long for Rofin-Sinar to really get moving in fiber lasers and that the company is stuck as a legacy producer in an industry with a lot of R&D/product feature competition on the high end and growing price competition on the low end.
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For my part, my feelings haven't changed all that much since I last wrote on the shares. I do think that the market is still undervaluing the company's long-term growth prospects, but I don't think the undervaluation is all that great. I'm also concerned that it has taken this long for Rofin-Sinar to really get moving in fiber lasers and that the company is stuck as a legacy producer in an industry with a lot of R&D/product feature competition on the high end and growing price competition on the low end.
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Tuesday, September 16, 2014
Seeking Alpha: IPG Photonics Continues To Grow, While Growing Its Addressable Markets
Fiber laser pioneer IPG Photonics (NASDAQ:IPGP)
continues to execute pretty well, though you may not know it from the
reaction of the market. I still liked the long-term fundamental story
back in March, but thought the valuation was getting a little steep. Since then, the shares have gone almost nowhere (while large laser rival Rofin-Sinar (NASDAQ:RSTI) has declined a few percentage points).
I think the last six months or so may be an example of a pause that refreshes. Fiber lasers continue to gain share in core markets like cutting, welding, and marketing, and IPG Photonics continues to develop products for multi-hundred million dollar applications like UV microprocessing, aluminum and high-strength steel welding, and sapphire glass cutting. IPG Photonics continues to leverage its cost and manufacturing advantages and hasn't seen a particularly deleterious impact from Chinese competition yet. With the shares looking about 10% undervalued, I'm warming up to IPG Photonics as a stock to acquire at these prices.
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IPG Photonics Continues To Grow, While Growing Its Addressable Markets
I think the last six months or so may be an example of a pause that refreshes. Fiber lasers continue to gain share in core markets like cutting, welding, and marketing, and IPG Photonics continues to develop products for multi-hundred million dollar applications like UV microprocessing, aluminum and high-strength steel welding, and sapphire glass cutting. IPG Photonics continues to leverage its cost and manufacturing advantages and hasn't seen a particularly deleterious impact from Chinese competition yet. With the shares looking about 10% undervalued, I'm warming up to IPG Photonics as a stock to acquire at these prices.
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Tuesday, March 25, 2014
Seeking Alpha: IPG Photonics Continuing To Expand Its Fiber Laser Opportunity
In the six months since I wrote on IPG Photonics (IPGP) as a Top Idea ("IPG Photonics Looking To Innovation And Integration")
the shares have registered a solid 26% gain. In that time, whatever
changes have come have largely been to IPG Photonics' credit - the
company maintains a significant lead over the likes of Rofin-Sinar (RSTI)
and the company's aggressive product development efforts continue to
expand the company's addressable market and long-term revenue potential.
I believe IPG Photonics remains a quality name in this space, but the shares are not as obviously cheap as they once were. I still expect long-term revenue growth in the neighborhood of 12% and I am still willing to project long-term FCF margins in the low 20%'s. There is upside to those numbers if the company's addressable markets (and/or share within them) expand even faster, but these shares look more like a "bullish hold" than a strong buy today.
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IPG Photonics Continuing To Expand Its Fiber Laser Opportunity
I believe IPG Photonics remains a quality name in this space, but the shares are not as obviously cheap as they once were. I still expect long-term revenue growth in the neighborhood of 12% and I am still willing to project long-term FCF margins in the low 20%'s. There is upside to those numbers if the company's addressable markets (and/or share within them) expand even faster, but these shares look more like a "bullish hold" than a strong buy today.
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IPG Photonics Continuing To Expand Its Fiber Laser Opportunity
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Friday, February 21, 2014
Seeking Alpha: Rofin-Sinar Needs To Get Moving
When I last visited Rofin-Sinar Technologies (RSTI),
I thought that the valuation held some appeal for long-term investors,
but that there were some meaningful operating/execution risks in the
meantime and that I preferred fiber laser specialist IPG Photonics (IPGP). That call has worked out pretty well, as IPGP is up more than 15% from that article, while Rofin-Sinar has fallen about 6%.
Rofin-Sinar is definitely seeing some pressures in its business today, as semiconductor, electronics, PV, and medical markets have fallen off. It is also not obvious to me that the company is making as much progress as it needs to in closing the gap with IPG Photonics. All of that said, the valuation is getting less demanding and if management can rebuild margins back to past levels the shares could do well from here.
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Rofin-Sinar Needs To Get Moving
Rofin-Sinar is definitely seeing some pressures in its business today, as semiconductor, electronics, PV, and medical markets have fallen off. It is also not obvious to me that the company is making as much progress as it needs to in closing the gap with IPG Photonics. All of that said, the valuation is getting less demanding and if management can rebuild margins back to past levels the shares could do well from here.
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Rofin-Sinar Needs To Get Moving
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Friday, September 20, 2013
Seeking Alpha: Rofin-Sinar Looking To A Cyclical Recovery And Fiber Share Gains
About a month and a half ago, I wrote that IPG Photonics (IPGP)
was a good name to know in lasers for its growth potential tied to the
expansion of the fiber laser market (where it has at least two-thirds
market share). Circling back, it's also worth exploring the potential of
the 800lb gorilla in the overall industrial laser space - Rofin-Sinar Technologies (RSTI).
Rofin-Sinar is the leading company in market share terms in a market that I'd characterize as "cyclical growth" - there are certainly ups and downs from year to year, but the overall laser market continues to outgrow overall industrial spending on a multi-year basis. With a strong IP position and industry reputation, not to mention a wide array of products, Rofin-Sinar can benefit from the ongoing expansion of industrial automation and the continuing penetration of lasers into new cutting, welding, and marking applications.
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Rofin-Sinar Looking To A Cyclical Recovery And Fiber Share Gains
Rofin-Sinar is the leading company in market share terms in a market that I'd characterize as "cyclical growth" - there are certainly ups and downs from year to year, but the overall laser market continues to outgrow overall industrial spending on a multi-year basis. With a strong IP position and industry reputation, not to mention a wide array of products, Rofin-Sinar can benefit from the ongoing expansion of industrial automation and the continuing penetration of lasers into new cutting, welding, and marking applications.
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Tuesday, August 27, 2013
Seeking Alpha: IPG Photonics Looking To Innovation And Integration
It's still pretty tough out there if you're in the laser business. While Newport (NEWP) and II-VI (IIVI) have come alive in the last three months and Coherent (COHR) and Rofin-Sinar (RSTI) are both in the green for the full year, only Newport has kept pace with the S&P 500. Even so, IPG Photonics (IPGP)
has done even worse, as wobbly quarterly performance and weak end
markets like industrial welding and automotive have discouraged
investors in this volatile laser company.
Still, I think there are better days ahead for this leading fiber laser company. Fiber lasers continue to gain share in the growing laser market, and the number of applications for fiber lasers has only been increasing. Not only does IPG Photonics enjoy a strong IP position and a good reputation for innovation, but the company's vertical integration allows it to produce lasers at considerably lower costs than its rivals - leaving the company free to compete on features when it can, and price when it must.
On a cash flow basis, I believe these shares are about 25% undervalued today, and I do expect rather aggressive adoption and growth for the company over the next five and ten years. EV/EBITDA also supports the notion that these shares are undervalued, and though global industrial capex spending remains a major unknown, I believe the success of IPG Photonics is more weighted toward "when" than "if".
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Still, I think there are better days ahead for this leading fiber laser company. Fiber lasers continue to gain share in the growing laser market, and the number of applications for fiber lasers has only been increasing. Not only does IPG Photonics enjoy a strong IP position and a good reputation for innovation, but the company's vertical integration allows it to produce lasers at considerably lower costs than its rivals - leaving the company free to compete on features when it can, and price when it must.
On a cash flow basis, I believe these shares are about 25% undervalued today, and I do expect rather aggressive adoption and growth for the company over the next five and ten years. EV/EBITDA also supports the notion that these shares are undervalued, and though global industrial capex spending remains a major unknown, I believe the success of IPG Photonics is more weighted toward "when" than "if".
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IPG Photonics Looking To Innovation And Integration
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Wednesday, January 23, 2013
Seeking Alpha: Is This A Chance To Pick Up II-VI For The Rebound?
Sometimes one of the best things an investor can do is pick up shares of
a quality company on a temporary problem in the industry. For instance,
investors who bought Lincoln Electric (LECO) below $40 are probably pretty happy that they did so. While the shares of laser optics and components maker II-VI (IIVI)
have been volatile, they historically haven't stayed very cheap for
very long. The question for investors now, though, is whether this is
another buying opportunity or whether II-VI's addressable markets have
changed in fundamental ways that will make this a disappointing stock
from now on.
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Is This A Chance To Pick Up II-VI For The Rebound?
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Is This A Chance To Pick Up II-VI For The Rebound?
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Tuesday, May 8, 2012
Investopedia: Rofin-Sinar Down On Power
Rofin-Sinar Technologies (Nasdaq:RSTI) has often been a quality small cap company that, despite a lack of institutional support (big-name sell side coverage), has often traded at pretty robust premiums.
With key industrial markets in Germany and China struggling, though,
these shares have had a rough go of it and have come down in value
substantially. While investors should not ignore the downside of further
global economic stagnation, now may be a good time to get up to speed on a stock that should be highly leveraged to a recovery in those markets.
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